Chris Lukianenko: Welcome everybody. Welcome back to another new series of Corporate Communications Online Events. I’ll just turn my webcam on, so you can see my study here this morning. Today’s session follows on from our other sessions in crisis communications with a topic that was discussed in those previous sessions, which was podcasting.
Chris Lukianenko: Podcasting isn’t new. It’s been around since about 2005. But just recently in times like this that we’re faced with, it seems that when we’re trying to get communications through to all different people in all different ways, it does seem like it’s sort of gained some popularity again. I know certainly on LinkedIn in this past fortnight, I’ve been getting a few random questions about what I do with podcasting, so hence we thought we would pull this presentation here together to give you a bit more information about it. Hopefully my mass clicks are going to work. There we go.
Chris Lukianenko: So this is me. My name’s Chris Lukianenko. I’m the host and the creator of The Intelligent Workplace podcast, which is our weekly external podcast. But I also produce an internal podcast for LiveTiles staff, which we call LiveTales. I absolutely love recording episodes with my guests. I talk to people from all corners of the globe. We cover topics such as diversity, wellbeing, artificial intelligence, storytelling, and most recently, crisis communications, would you believe?
Chris Lukianenko: But today, I’m going to focus more on using the podcast as an internal communications tool because that’s what we’ve really seen some success with and it seems to be what people are interested in with the questions I’ve been getting lately.
Chris Lukianenko: About us. If you don’t know by now, this is LiveTiles. We’re a global company, specializing in employee and collaboration communication software and services and AI for the workplace. We’re in many locations, and that is a key reason for us creating an internal podcast.
Chris Lukianenko: The agenda. So what am I going to cover today? Well first of all, before I get started, this isn’t a lecture. let’s treat it as a bit of a conversation. It’s going to be interactive. I’m here pretty much just to help you. If you have any questions during this session, forward them into the app and I’ll see them ping up on the screen, and I’ll do my best to answer them. I’m also more than happy to continue the conversation offline, if you really want to get into some more deeper conversations around any of the topics that I cover here. I’ll share my email with you at the end so we can facilitate that. I think this is going to be a bit of fun.
Chris Lukianenko: So the agenda. First up, I’ll take you through why podcasting. I’ve got a bit of a cool story about how I fell into podcasting here at LiveTiles, so I’ll tell you that, and how we set up our podcast for right around 500 bucks with a little bit of smoke and mirrors. I’ll tell you a bit about why you should maybe consider implementing a podcast yourselves. And then I’ll give you the rundown on what equipment that you’ll need to get up and running really easily. And then I’m going to give you a bit of a sneak peek at our internal solution that we built. We sort of cobbled something together that was going to save ourselves $50,000 when we couldn’t find a solution in the market. As I said before, if you’ve got a question, ping it up on the screen there and I’ll get to it when I can, or we can save it towards the end. We’ve got a bit of Q and A at the end there.
Chris Lukianenko: So why podcast podcasting? We’ll imagine these are all your staff here on the screen and we need to communicate with them. They are no longer in the one spot, they’re spread all around the country, the state, the world, wherever it be. And we need to talk to them. Podcasting is basically an efficient, effective and secure method of communicating with everyone in your company, when they want to consume it, and where they want to consume it. Now, the key message there is secure, for me. I’ll come back to that a bit later, so just hold on to that one.
Chris Lukianenko: It’s also a really great way, I’ve found, to add a human element to communications that can sometimes be lost within the written word. You know what it’s like when you read an email and you have to sort of, you decipher it in your own voice. And the other way you can get around that is to create video, but video takes a long time to produce and can be really, really expensive. When I record with my colleagues, I give them intro music. We joke around. We laugh and we have a great time, and all the while that we’re telling the stories of the business. So we’re really, sort of, communicating not only a story but a little bit of the emotion and the feeling around it as well. That’s a real key to all of this. We’ve got to make it sort of interesting. I’ve got to tell these stories, but I will come back to that a little bit later.
Chris Lukianenko: So, how did we begin this journey into podcasting? Well, it was kind of like the merging of a great idea with a little bit of a white lie. That’s me there in our podcast room the other week. And we created that for under $500, pretty much inside a day or so. You see, we had the two bosses, the two co-owners on coming down to visit us down in Hobart and we wanted to convince them that we should take over an extra part of this floor plan in the office, we’ve got this shared space. There was this office here that wasn’t really being used and we wanted to try and grab it because it was a good to use as maybe another meeting room or something like that. And one of my colleagues said, “Let’s just create a podcast studio.” We sort of looked at him a little bit funny as like, “Why would we do that?” Until he joined the dots for us.
Chris Lukianenko: You see, that logo that you can see on the other side of the screen, that’s LiveTales, that’s our internal podcast brand. It’s where we share some stories from one side of the globe to the other. LiveTales was dreamed up by our CEO, but the actual details of how those stories were going to get from person to person hadn’t really been worked out at this time. So a few days before the CEO was due to arrive, we did an online order, a few bits and pieces of recording gear and some foam tiles that you can see there in the background. And then, by the time that he arrived, we had this podcast studio cobbled together and set up where we then pitched to him that we can record all of these stories and share them with the globe all for less than 500 bucks.
Chris Lukianenko: So we were pretty happy with that. Literally, that’s where this whole journey began. That was about 18 months ago. At the same time, I decided I would start up a podcast in my spare time to talk about one of my great loves, which is craft beer, so that I could practice storytelling in my spare time and at work and hopefully get better to keep this thing rolling. I said 18 months ago, and we’re still going strong producing internal, external and those beer ones as well. So producing anywhere three to five episodes per week, I’m doing now.
Chris Lukianenko: It is a bit of work, this podcasting. This Podcasting 101 slide. People don’t realize that there is working in creating these. They hear a 10 or 15-minute session… Sorry, Branson’s just asking, could we send a list of equipment later? Yes, I will. I will email afterwards with some links to where you can buy this equipment. No dramas, mate.
Chris Lukianenko: So as I said, look, it is a bit of work. When you listen to a 10-minute podcast, you think it’s all easy. But there is work in planning. You’ve got to set up to record. Maybe you’re recording late at night if you’re talking to someone on the other side of the world. You’ve then got to edit that, publish it, and then store those files and share them with your colleagues. So I’ll just go into that in a little bit more detail now. My screen just started to… There we go.
Chris Lukianenko: The basic message here is you do not need to spend a lot of money on equipment. That’s my mic there on the left-hand side. Here it is, I’m actually using it today. That is the Yeti Blue and [inaudible] and it’s available at JB Hi-Fi, Best Buy, just your local electronics store. And that’s pretty much all you’re going to need along with a pair of headphones to get yourself started. On the screen there, you can see a little bit of a mobile kit. I’ve done some roving interviews at conferences and events and those such things, where I use this kit on the right. It’s The Rode SCL6. Two live mics, plugged into that little converter there, plugged into the iPhone with an app and then you can record on the go. So that’s another option if you are going to be doing roving recording, but being that we’re all pretty much in lockdown, probably not going to be a lot of that going on.
Chris Lukianenko: When I am on the road in the past, I’ve got two of those Yetis that I take with me and then I plug them both into my laptop, record directly into Adobe Audition, with a little bit of mucking around, which I can talk about later on with anybody who’s interested, and yeah, record directly into that.
Chris Lukianenko: A key thing down the bottom right-hand side there are the foam tiles. They are important but there are other ways around creating a space which is not having too much echo. So at the moment, I’m here in my home. I’ve set up my office. On the wall, which you can’t see, I do have some foam tiles that are helping to stop the sound bouncing around. Occasionally behind me, I’ll put up a blanket to stop the sound bouncing against the window, and back and forth to stop echo. But it’s nothing too, too much more than that. It’s pretty simple.
Chris Lukianenko: One of my guests that I did a podcast with one time, he was in a big office space and we’ll get a lot of echo. When he said to me, “Oh. Do I sound okay, Chris? Chris? Chris? Chris?” It just kept repeating and I was like, “We can’t record like this.” So he went somewhere in the office and grabbed a big beach blanket and literally sat with a beach blanket over the top of his head, over the microphone, so that it sort of kept all the sound in and that worked. So where there’s a will, there’s a way. It doesn’t have to be complex to get a decent sound.
Chris Lukianenko: Now, recording online is, being that we’re all in isolation and all that sort of thing, this is going to be really key to any sort of podcast that you produce. Picking the right piece of software here is a key element in creating a great finished product. Now, before I go on, I’m in no way, shape or form associated with Zencastr, the company that you can see on the screen that provide this solution. I just found this and absolutely loved it and it’s I think is the best service that I could find that’s actually reasonably priced. There’s a lot of options here and this is what I went with. It costs about $20 a month. There’s also a free version, which I think just restricts you to maybe three people recording at one time.
Chris Lukianenko: But with the full one, I think it’s, I’m not going to say unlimited, but you can record with a lot of people. How it works and what I really love about it is it uses local files. Obviously, this is a webinar-abled solution, but what it does, it records the local audio to a temporary file on the user’s laptop or whatever, and then once you’ve finished your recording, it then uploads those into the cloud, you’ll see them appear on the screen there and you can download them and then work with them. So you don’t get any interference based on a bad internet connection that sometimes might give you that computerized audio sound or glitches. It’s really great for that.
Chris Lukianenko: I’ve tried many others. I’ve had a couple of failures with a few other different solutions where I’ve completely lost audio. I’ve just found this one to be the most reliable and I really enjoyed using it. So that’s my tip here. The one drawback with it is it doesn’t work with Apple devices. They’re working on that. The reason why it doesn’t is that they’re worried about the quality of the audio that comes through when they’re using Apple devices. So they’re trying to find a fix around that. But mostly, I haven’t really had a problem with that. Most people have got a laptop with some headphones and when I record with people I just send them a link with a few simple instructions on how to cut down echo and those sorts of things, the dos and the don’ts, and then we’re away. Pretty simple.
Chris Lukianenko: Editing. This is kind of where probably maybe some of the largest amount of effort is put into doing this thing. It can be time-consuming. I usually like to allow one and a half times the duration of whatever I’ve recorded to edit it. This here, you can see, is Adobe Audition on the screen there. I use that because we have a corporate license for the Adobe Suite, and with Photoshop and those sorts of things. So it came with that. In the past, I’ve used Audacity, the logo you can see on the right-hand side there, which was fine. It’s a free product. And I’ve also heard good things about Wave Pad. I haven’t actually used that myself, but a couple of free options there if you’re looking at… or not wanting to pay for Adobe Audition.
Chris Lukianenko: In terms of editing, we don’t find to do too much. I do edit out the rubbish, but with our internal ones, especially, we try to sort of keep most of it in there. They’re only for the ears of our family members within the four walls of LiveTiles. So the stuff ups, the laughter, and the fun stuff, they’re kind of all part of it. It adds to a bit of the color around it so it’s not too black and white, not too cold. It’s sort of really gives it a bit of warmth.
Chris Lukianenko: Publishing. Now, this is where things really started to get interesting for me with this whole thing. We had great stories internally that we wanted to share with each other, but we needed a publishing and distribution solution that wouldn’t share those with the outside world. So as I said before, it needed to be secure. And that was a major problem for us here. Once again, I did my research. I found lots of different great hosting options. There are literally hundreds of them. But they are all pretty much for public podcasts and were designed to go through iTunes and out to the world for everybody to hear. We needed a similar sort of solution but we needed it to be secure because potentially we might be telling customer stories about someone who we can’t share with the outside world. So we needed to keep them locked down.
Chris Lukianenko: So I kept looking and I did find a couple of all-in-one solutions, but the problem was with those, they actually had their own app and they’re about $50,000 to buy. We needed to have something that had no barriers for our team to be able to listen to these things. So we wanted to have it surface through their regular podcasting app that they’re listening to their other podcasts on. It needed to be secure and simple as well. Nothing that we found could provide us with that. So we built our own. And look at that, isn’t it beautiful? I actually had to put this screenshot onto this laptop background to make it look a little bit nice because it’s ugly. Let’s be honest, we know it’s ugly but it’s ours and it works.
Chris Lukianenko: One of my ex-colleagues made this for me, Sam, he’s a great bloke. Zero interest in making things look pretty, just wanted to make it work. So that’s what we’ve got and it is simple. You basically upload your MP3, fill in the episode number and the title, create a description with the WYSIWYG editor there, and then that all flows through to the RSS feed and then will appear on the phone with the episode description links and all that sort of thing. Really, really simple.
Chris Lukianenko: I’m not going to get into the technical details around how this works because I’m not technical, but what this did do, it replaced the need for me to muck around with things called blob containers and database tables via the Azure Storage Explorer, which I was using sort of through the backend. Now, I just literally come to this page, I put my files and the details in there and they magically get pushed into Azure for people to be able to listen to them. Which brings me to my next step, which is the sharing of all this sort of stuff.
Chris Lukianenko: As I said before, we wanted to make this simple to access. So we gave our staff a few options around this. On the left hand-side of the screen there, you can see our LiveTales page on our intranet. We serve these episodes up via a bit of a custom title and our staff can stroll through those episodes there, and then they can click onto them, see the episode description that I’ve put in from the previous step, click on the links if they want, and then play them directly through their desktop. Top right there is a dedicated web page that we’ve created, livetalespodcast.com. It serves two purposes for us. You see, you have to be logged into your Office 365 account to be able to access that page and listen to these episodes. So it’s all completely secure, which is the beauty of this. But it also allows us to create a unique RSS feed per user using those login details.
Chris Lukianenko: Basically the idea with this now is we’ve actually got this as a mobile webpage. You log into that webpage, and then you click the link. Then in that round red circle there, you can see it creates a unique RSS feed based on the user’s login details. That then gets automatically pumped into the user’s default podcast, a solution that they use on their phone, and as an RSS feed to be able to bring it up.
Chris Lukianenko: On the screen there, you can see, that’s my phone, a screenshot from my phone. That basically is like any other podcast that I listen to. You can see there, my last episode was 20th of February. So coronavirus has kind of hit me between the eyes with this. I haven’t made one in a little time, but yeah, you’ll see they’ll all come up through there and I can listen to that along with all of my sporting podcasts or music or whatever the hell it is that I like to listen to. So basically that was our problem solved.
Chris Lukianenko: Now, we’ve just got a question here. Could you put the last five episodes, for example, on the front page of our intranet? Yes. Yeah, we are working with that. We put them all in there and they’re shown on that intranet page in reverse order, so that would be the most five recent ones. That talk and then be moved around to other pages as well. But we’ve chosen to put it onto that page there because we also have a few links off to a couple of forms where we can get people to suggest topics for the podcasts and all that sort of thing and provide me with some ideas. But there are definitely options there. Thanks for that question.
Chris Lukianenko: All right. There we go. But wait, there is more to all of this. Because of it being linked to our Office 365 accounts, we can track who is listening to each episode and this is awesome for us. So this is here is a Power BI dashboard that we’ve built to summarize all of the information around this for me. I can see in that top right-hand side, in those little pie charts who’s been listing by country, department, the browsers they’ve been using, and the operating system, so we know if they’re on their phones or not. You can see down the left-hand side who’s listening to individual episodes. We’ve got a little scattered graph there of the countries that are most popular and the areas that are listening to this and then a graph over time.
Chris Lukianenko: Now, the good thing here is that we can also use this as a compliance solution, which is really interesting. Perhaps in times like a crisis communication, we needed to get something out, it’s already there. We can use this to check the people who’ve listened to it. The bottom right-hand side there, you’ve got your user IDs, and then the episode numbers go across the top, and then the date that those people listened to those on. So we can see, if we need everybody to listen to episode 25, we can track that, we can send reminders and all of this stuff here can be exported into Excel if you want to make use of it in another way. The solution that you’re looking at here, these few different pages, we haven’t made this commercially available as yet. We’ve just been using it internally, because we weren’t really sure whether people were actually interested in it.
Chris Lukianenko: So it does seem like now that people are with these recent events, interested in doing this. So look, if you’re interested in finding out more about this, doing something similar to what I’ve been doing here, just shoot me an email and we can have a chat about it and I can put you in contact with the right people to talk about how this could work for you in terms of the technical details and all of that sort of thing. So I’m more than happy to share those details with you. Just excuse me one second while I just flick the slide over. There we go.
Chris Lukianenko: We know the people are busy right now. Lord knows that I am. One of the main tips for me with all of this is respecting your people’s time. So we keep things short. We think 15 minutes is about the sweet spot for our internal stories. We feel like that duration isn’t going to encroach on people’s time too much. They can consume it on the bus, on the train, during the commute in the car, whatever it is, quite easily.
Chris Lukianenko: But another thing we also do with this, we sort of make people understand that this isn’t something that we’re doing for pleasure. This is part of your normal working life. So making people understand that it’s okay to basically consume this when you can, when you’re making a coffee, or if you need to sit down for 10 minutes to listen to the latest episode, do it. So there were some comments around that because people were sort of feeling like, that if they got seen with their headphones on in the office, that people thought they were listening to music or watching a video. So we did a bit of a communication around that and that seems to be cutting through.
Chris Lukianenko: Next up, make it fun and interesting. Gather ideas from your colleagues. Really have some fun with it because things are a little bit bleak right now. So doing things like that really adds to that human element to it and we’ve found that having a good laugh on the call or whatever is good fun. It really relaxes people and gets the best out of them. Speaking of being relaxed, I do find that some of my guests get a little bit nervous. So I always tell them that nothing is live. If they make a mistake with me, I cut it out afterwards. I’m not a journalist. I’m not looking for a scoop, even with my external podcasts. I just want to share great stories. So that sort of sets the scene.
Chris Lukianenko: That’s the first thing that I tell them, to just relax, it’s not live, and let’s just tell a great story together. And sort of on that, don’t forget what your role is with all of this. You’re a storyteller. That’s how I consider myself now, even though that’s not my title, maybe it might be one day. I am a short storyteller and I’m sharing the stories of my colleagues. And you’re helping them to share them, so help them to sound awesome. It’s pretty simple. Just sort of, you feed them up the really easy questions to start with, to allow them, I say, to knock it out of the park. I’ll give them a nice easy softball pitch and they can whack it. So work with them to create a great story. Maybe you provide them with a bit of an outline on the stuff that you’re going to cover with them so that they can prepare beforehand. Maybe even share the questions with them, that’s fine. It’s all about getting the best story.
Chris Lukianenko: I’ve just got an example here, yeah. Someone’s asking me, some of the internal topics you’ve done internally in the last few months with the LiveTales team. We have a few different things. We like to tell stories about customers. That’s probably our key thing with all of this. We like to find the great customer stories and share that around the globe. So for example, somebody who might be working with a big bank in Australia might be able to share some insights with someone who’s working in a European or American division about another big bank in their area. So there’s perhaps things that they can share that can help them maybe seal a deal, or provide a customer with some more information or better service, all that sort of thing. So customer stories are certainly key.
Chris Lukianenko: We’ve done some fun stuff around people sharing their experiences or when they’ve moved to other countries, talking about that. We’ve done things around, when we’ve launched new products, or we’ve taken a bit of a shift in direction on a certain product and we need to do a bit of a technical talk, we’ve done those sorts of things. I’ve had our CEO on for a few times, sharing his vision for the company. I’ve had HR talking about the changing times. But at the moment, we’re really trying to push out our customer stories a lot because in times like this, where things are getting a little bit tough, any information that we can provide our sales teams around assisting customers in a better way, that seems to be really important.
Chris Lukianenko: Hopefully that’s answered your question. But I guess, we will try anything. Sometimes I’ve had episodes that haven’t really resonated, so we won’t do that again, but don’t be afraid to try something. It only takes 10 or 15 minutes to record someone, you put it out there. If it doesn’t work, what’s the worst thing that happens? You don’t do it again. So have some fun with it and experiment would be another tip of mine.
Chris Lukianenko: One last thing, storytelling. A bit of a blatant plug here for my external podcast. This guy right here joined me for episode 24 of The Intelligent Workplace podcast. This is Steve Clayton, the chief storyteller from Microsoft. He is an amazing bloke, very giving of his time and an absolute wealth of knowledge in terms of corporate storytelling, both internally and externally.
Chris Lukianenko: In this episode, you might get some inspiration for what you can do in your business. He shared some great stories, some insights and some really great tips on this episode. I really loved talking with this guy. Goes for about 45 minutes, so put it on when you’re on your morning commute because he is absolutely fantastic, someone I really look up to in my current role as probably being at the absolute top of his game. If you get on to, I think, it’s stories.microsoft.com you can see some of the work that they’re doing. He was magnificent and we recorded on either sides of the globe via Zencastr one morning and it was absolutely fantastic.
Chris Lukianenko: Speaking of The Intelligent Workplace, this here podcast.livetilesglobal.com is where all the external stuff goes. We’re about to start a second series of The Intelligent Workplace podcast, which is a sub series, which is going to be more around things like what we’re talking about today, sort of helping customers, et cetera, to solve problems. They’ll be less about telling the stories and more about some more tactical things. Each of these webinars that we’ve been doing, we’ll reserve those through the podcasts under the education series banner as something that can hopefully provide all of our network with some assistance during these difficult times.
Chris Lukianenko: Whoa. I want to take a quick breath here and grab a quick drink. Has anybody got any questions for me? You can ask them now through the question box, or maybe you can send me an email if you want to get into something deeper a little bit later on.
Chris Lukianenko: No brave souls out there needing to ask questions. That’s okay. That’s all right. Already had a couple. Oh, we’ve got someone on, a young gentlemen by the name of Peter Brown. Is this compatible with LiveTiles and other systems? It is certainly compatible with LiveTiles. We’ve built this solution around the Office 365 environment because that’s what we operate in, so it’s using Azure cloud storage to sort of drive a lot of this stuff. And then we resurface it via our LiveTales page designer software at this stage.
Chris Lukianenko: Look, I’m dreaming big here. Maybe one day, we could get it into Microsoft Teams as well. At the end of the day, we’re just sort of serving MP3 files and streaming them out to the world. So I’m sure this can work with other systems as well. It’s all about that storage element, I think, is the big key thing here. That was the issue that we couldn’t solve with some of the other solutions because that was all sort of encased in all their tech.
Chris Lukianenko: This is sort of a little bit more open source and I think it can work with other systems as well. But if you’re not in the Office 365 environment and are interested in it, talk to us and we’ll see what we can do. Because as I said, I’m not technical, but I know 100% for sure it works within the Office 365 environment.
Chris Lukianenko: The question here, have you interviewed external guests such as health experts for internal podcasts, i.e., mental health? Yeah, I have. I did a great one with a lady by the name of Nina Purewal out of Canada, once again, recorded via Zencastr, and she had written a book based on her experiences with mental health and her journey into mindfulness.
Chris Lukianenko: When I do these podcasts, I do research into the guests and find out as much as I can, but you don’t always find out everything. And with Nina, I knew that she’d had a bit of a life tragedy that forced her to take this direction when she was in her teens. I didn’t actually know what that tragedy was until during the podcast, and it absolutely hit me in the guts. I could not believe what she’d been through. I won’t spoil it for you. I think that might be episode 25, if you want to go and find it out. But that was an amazing thing where you have a conversation and something just comes of it, and you have a plan and then you go off on a tangent and just run with it. And I ended up sharing some of my story as well.
Chris Lukianenko: Mental health, and it’s what she was talking about, is really important these days. So we sort of wrapped that all up into a real messy job of self-care and wellbeing, and all that sort of stuff. I’ve done a couple of those because I know internally we are really, really interested in looking after the wellbeing of our staff. One of our co-founders, Pete Nguyen-Brown, is a massive supporter of this and we use that to support our LiveTiles initiative as well. So we will be doing more on wellbeing once sort of all the coronavirus stuff settles down a little bit.
Chris Lukianenko: Just for these things pinging up on my screen. Question here. Why a podcast and not a short video? Well, there’s a lot more work in doing video. I love video. I do do a lot of work with video as well internally creating sort of product updates and that sort of thing.
Chris Lukianenko: The thing with video is that you need to be in person, I feel, to get a really great finished product. That is difficult. That is cost-prohibitive. And obviously in this time, it is also a problem. But just in the last few days, I’ve been messing around with some videos from Microsoft Teams and working with one of my colleagues and we were testing a call the other day where I was recording the call on my end and she was recording the call on her end. Could we do an interview along those lines?
Chris Lukianenko: So while I say we haven’t really ventured into that in this space in terms of the podcast right now, I think we could. These videos from these webinars are certainly going to be pushed out to YouTube as an on-demand type webinar series if you like as well as doing it on the podcast. So never say never. I know again, one of the co-founders is very keen on video because it is a powerful medium as well. So maybe that will come soon because I certainly enjoy doing that myself as well.
Chris Lukianenko: Any more questions over there? Great questions, guys. Thanks for those. I knew I would enjoy doing this today. Well, if there’s no more questions, we might move on to next week, because as you know, this is an ongoing series that I’m producing here. Every Thursday, we’ll be doing these in the Communications Online Event Series. Next week, we’ve got a great one. So Microsoft Teams right now is a very, very hot topic. We’re all over this year at LiveTiles and it seems like we’re not alone there.
Chris Lukianenko: I’ve got a special guest joining me next week. Looking at going beyond the meeting with Microsoft Teams. A lot of people just think that Microsoft Teams is just for video calls and chats. But as we have shown with things like our power panel within teams and how you can have everything all at your fingertips, there’s a lot you can do with this. Branson is just saying that they’ve started using Teams and it’s amazing. My daughter is going to be working from home as of next week… sorry, schooling from home, and they’re using Microsoft Team to facilitate that. So there are so many different things you can use this for.
Chris Lukianenko: I’ve got a special guest coming on to talk about some of those other elements that you can use Microsoft Teams for. If you’re interested in that, jump on, same place, same time, same channel next Thursday. We’ll have a bit of a chat about that.
Chris Lukianenko: I guess if there’s no more questions, I just want to say thanks for joining me today. This has been wonderful. I absolutely love doing the podcasting. It’s an absolute joy for me to be able to go to work and share these stories with people. I’m glad that there’s some people who have taken interest in it as well. It’s been great having you here. Once again, if you’ve got any questions, you’ve got my email address, shoot me an email and ask me whatever you like. I’m more than happy to help you. And if you want to go and have a look at that solution that we’ve built, I can help facilitate that as well. I will email out after this with all the details around all the bits and pieces that I’ve spoken about here and share the presentation.
Chris Lukianenko: So hopefully, we’ll see you here same time next week for a bit more fun for another session in the Corporate Communications Online Events Series. Thanks very much. Have a great day.